Collada Export File Vertex Weights Problem

Hello,

i have a problem, i exported a cube elebow with 3 bones from Maya in collada and want to load it in my project, so i read the docu about Vertex Weights and Bone Indices.

The docu says that vcount in library_controllers has the same count as the total vertices count in the mesh, but in my case, i tried it with many different meshes, is the vertex weights count everytime smaller as the total vertices count in the mesh.

My elbow cube has total 60 vertices, but in the library_controller has the vertex weights vcount only 12 :frowning:

How do i get/calculate the influence of the other 48 Vertices Weights/Bones Indices

Greets
Benjamin

Here is a image of my model

Here is a image of my model, only display the vertices that has a vertex weight

Here is the Model Collada File


      <triangles count="20" material="lambert1"><input semantic="VERTEX" offset="0" source="#pCube1-VERTEX"/><input semantic="NORMAL" offset="1" source="#pCube1-Normal0"/><input semantic="TEXCOORD" offset="2" set="0" source="#pCube1-UV0"/><p> 3 0 3 2 1 2 0 2 0 3 3 3 0 4 0 1 5 1 3 6 3 5 7 5 2 8 2 2 9 2 5 10 5 4 11 4 7 12 7 6 13 6 4 14 4 7 15 7 4 16 4 5 17 5 1 18 9 0 19 8 6 20 6 1 21 9 6 22 6 7 23 7 11 24 17 9 25 14 10 26 16 9 27 14 8 28 15 10 29 16 2 30 2 6 31 12 0 32 0 6 33 12 2 34 2 4 35 13 7 36 10 8 37 15 1 38 1 9 39 14 1 40 1 8 41 15 5 42 11 10 43 16 7 44 10 8 45 15 7 46 10 10 47 16 11 48 17 5 49 11 3 50 3 5 51 11 11 52 17 10 53 16 1 54 1 9 55 14 3 56 3 11 57 17 3 58 3 9 59 14</p></triangles>
      </mesh>
    </geometry>
  </library_geometries>
  <library_controllers>
    <controller id="pCube1Controller">
      <skin source="#pCube1-lib">
        <bind_shape_matrix>1.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
</bind_shape_matrix>
        <source id="pCube1Controller-Joints">
          <Name_array id="pCube1Controller-Joints-array" count="3">
 joint1 joint2 joint3</Name_array>
          <technique_common>
            <accessor source="#pCube1Controller-Joints-array" count="3">
              <param type="name"/>
            </accessor>
          </technique_common>
        </source>
        <source id="pCube1Controller-Matrices">
          <float_array id="pCube1Controller-Matrices-array" count="48">

0.999999 0.001040 0.000000 0.375687 -0.001040 0.999999 0.000000 -0.000391 0.000000 -0.000000 1.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
0.999783 -0.000978 0.020814 -1.665093 0.000978 1.000000 0.000021 -0.003751 -0.020814 -0.000001 0.999783 0.034664 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
1.000000 0.000000 -0.000000 -3.833521 -0.000000 1.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 -0.045135 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000</float_array>
          <technique_common>
            <accessor source="#pCube1Controller-Matrices-array" count="3" stride="16">
              <param type="float4x4"/>
            </accessor>
          </technique_common>
        </source>
        <source id="pCube1Controller-Weights">
          <float_array id="pCube1Controller-Weights-array" count="33">

1.000000 0.989534 0.009756 0.708022 0.289010 0.002968 0.989518 0.009771 0.708398 0.288669 0.002933 0.989525 0.009771 0.708446 0.288689 0.002866
0.989540 0.009756 0.708070 0.289030 0.002900 0.004697 0.497651 0.497651 0.003326 0.498337 0.498337 0.004704 0.497648 0.497648 0.003331 0.498334
0.498334</float_array>
          <technique_common>
            <accessor source="#pCube1Controller-Weights-array" count="33">
              <param type="float"/>
            </accessor>
          </technique_common>
        </source>
        <joints>
          <input semantic="JOINT" source="#pCube1Controller-Joints"/>
          <input semantic="INV_BIND_MATRIX" source="#pCube1Controller-Matrices"/>
        </joints>
            <vertex_weights count="12">
          <input semantic="JOINT" offset="0" source="#pCube1Controller-Joints"/>
          <input semantic="WEIGHT" offset="1" source="#pCube1Controller-Weights"/>
          <vcount>2 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 3 3 3 3</vcount>
          <v>0 1 1 2 0 3 1 4 2 5 0 6 1 7 0 8 1 9 2 10 0 11 1 12 0 13 1 14 2 15 0 16 1 17 0 18 1 19 2 20 0 21 1 22 2 23 0 24 1 25 2 26 0 27 1 28 2 29 0 30 1 31 2 32</v>
        </vertex_weights>
      </skin>
    </controller>
  </library_controllers>

Just a guess, your picture has a model that appears to have 12 vertices. Is it possible the exporter is bound to that model?

EDITED: In case you see this, <skin source="#pCube1-lib"> should have 12 vertices from the looks of this. Is that the <geometry> that you want? In hindsight (unrelated) it’s a shame that the controllers can’t be reused with different sources via <instance_controller> but that’s the least of COLLADA’s deficiencies.

I already solve the problem.

My mistake was to think, that the 12 vertices are the indices of my final vertices array in my geometry, but it’s linked to the positon array of the geomtry in the file :slight_smile: